I thought I would just share with you some notes I took while dutifully, if painfully, watching the CNN GOP debate last night:
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The thing opens with NFL football seriousness, what with the music and the introduction of the candidates. I am thinking there is going to be a Stealth Bomber flyover.
I note there are three or four black folks in the audience. Perhaps a debate record for the GOP.
I couldn’t tell if Newt was booed when he came on the scene or whether it was Newwwwwt‘s. But I am convinced he enjoys it no matter what.
Oh, my God. I have to revise my count: there are three African-American kids in the choir singing the national anthem. Three out of twelve. Now, we are definitely talking a record here. The GOP is the party of inclusion!
I notice Newt is not singing along. Neither is Ron Paul. Man, if the President Who Was Born In Kenya did that, he would really get the business on Fox News later tonight and all day tomorrow. But at least Newt has his hand over his
chest. That’s a good patriotic sign, or else the too-spicy tamales on the Mexican buffet backstage are getting to him.
When Rick Santorum introduces himself it strikes me how much he would look like Pee-wee Herman, if he only had a bow tie. Where’s George Will when you need him?
The debate gets going:
In response to a question about his calling Mitt “the most anti-immigrant candidate” in an ad, Newt says we have to be “realistic in our indignation.” I’m not immediately sure what that means, but I know Newt has never done it.
Wolf Blitzer, the amiable moderator, won’t let Newt escape and he is forced to admit that he does indeed think Mitt is “the most anti-immigrant candidate.” This is where Mittens begins his attack, using what I will call gentlemanly aggression, and Newt is shrinking before my eyes. And I never thought I would ever put Newt and “shrinking” in the same sentence.
“That’s inexcusable!” Mitt says. And then he drops a Marco Rubio on him, saying Rubio also believes the ad was “inexcusable and inflammatory and inappropriate.” Wow! A Triple Adjective Takedown! I haven’t seen one of those in a while! But Mitt really wounds Newt with this:
Mr. Speaker, I’m not anti-immigrant. My father was born in Mexico. My wife’s father was born in Wales. They came to this country. The idea that I’m anti-immigrant is repulsive.
Then Mittens says,
I think you should recognize that having differences of opinions on issues does not justify labeling people with highly charged epithets.
Oh, my. If Newt can’t label people with highly charged epithets, he won’t be able to say another word the rest of the campaign.
Next, Wolf turns to Mitt’s ad about Gingrich calling Spanish “the language of the ghetto.” And here we find out why Mitt Romney will have a lot of problems going up against Big O. Mitt says he hasn’t seen the ad. And then asks,
Did he say that?
Moments later he adds,
I doubt that’s my ad, but we’ll take a look and find out. There are a bunch of ads out there that are being organized by other people.
Dammit Mitt! This is bleeping CNN! They’ve hired fact checkers for this special night! You can’t get away with that stuff. Sure enough, Wolf comes back later and says:
We did double-check, just now, Governor, that ad that we talked about, where I quoted you as saying that Speaker Gingrich called Spanish “the language of the ghetto” — we just double-checked. It was one of your ads. It’s running here in Florida in — on the radio. And at the end you say, “I’m Mitt Romney and I approved this ad.”
Oops!
But Mitt soon rehabs himself. Blitzer asks Newt about Romney’s personal finances, and Newt, trying his old shtick, tells Wolf he has asked a “nonsense question.” But the crowd isn’t tearing the place down and Wolf refuses to be detoured (this is his finest moment; later he will degrade himself and ask about the candidates’ wives, a typical cutesy CNN question) and confronts Newt with reality:
BLITZER: But, Mr. Speaker, you made an issue of this, this week, when you said that, “He lives in a world of Swiss bank and Cayman Island bank accounts.” I didn’t say that. You did.
GINGRICH: I did. And I’m perfectly happy to say that on an interview on some TV show. But this is a national debate, where you have a chance to get the four of us to talk about a whole range of issues.
BLITZER: But if you make a serious accusation against Governor Romney like that, you need to explain that.
GINGRICH: I simply suggested –
(BOOING)
GINGRICH: You want to try again? I mean –
And this is where Romney triumphs. Not content to let the slimy little Newt get off that easy, he says,
Wouldn’t it be nice if people didn’t make accusations somewhere else that they weren’t willing to defend here?
Damn, Mittens is now on fire! And Newt is forced to respond, which he did, weakly:
GINGRICH: OK. All right.
Given that standard, Mitt, I did say I thought it was unusual. And I don’t know of any American president who has had a Swiss bank account. I’d be glad for you to explain that sort of thing.
Which, of course, Mitt does, unconvincingly. But the damage to Newt is done. He asks for a “two-way truce.”
Game over.
Just a few more notes on the night (I will deal with Santorum’s critique of Romneycare in another post; it was fantastic):
I am feeling sorry for the woman who asks what she is supposed to do about being unemployed for the first time in 10 years and “unable to afford health care benefits.” Sadly, she gets a lecture on conservative economics from all the candidates, which, no doubt, helped cause her to be unemployed and without insurance in the first place. Newt even says this in response to her question:
We need to have a program which would start with, frankly, repealing Obamacare, repealing Dodd-Frank, repealing Sarbanes-Oxley.
You gotta love that compassionate conservatism.
And I feel sorry for a man who identified himself as a Palestinian-American Republican. I immediately wonder how someone could be a Republican and a Palestinian-American, given the right’s attitude toward the Palestinians, but then I also wonder how someone could be a gay Republican. Go figure. The man asks this:
How would a Republican administration help bring peace to Palestine and Israel when most candidates barely recognize the existence of Palestine or its people? …I’m here to tell you we do exist.
I can guess what is coming: It’s Obama’s fault! Romney says that,
This president threw – I think he threw Israel under the bus with regards to defining the ’67 borders as a starting point of negotiations. I think he disrespected Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
If Mitt keeps repeating this lie enough, perhaps Politifact will eventually rate it as “true.” Who knows. But this is one of many lies about Obama on the night.
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Truth-challenged Mitt Romney will win the nomination, and the sooner the better. I don’t think I can watch another one of these debates, especially since Newt has decided not to stick anymore firecrackers in Mitt’s skivvies and watch him squirm.
And even though Newt did manage in his closing to drop a couple of references to food stamps and gave a nod to Saul Alinsky, it appears the fight has been knocked out of him this night by Mitt and earlier in the day by the Republican establishment—including a weird tag team of Bob Dole and the disturbing Ann Coulter.
And as much as I’d like to see him get the nomination and thus lose the general election, as a good American, I say good riddance.
Tags: CNN debate, Jacksonville, Marco Rubio, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich
January 27, 2012 at 6:34 am |
I tried watching one of the debates, but the level of disrespect for the middle class, the unemployed, the poor, the working American, students, and the elderly was too much for me. It is so difficult to understand why a person who works in a manufacturing, non-managerial job, or anyone who makes less than $250,000 a year could label themselves a Republican. I wonder what the current agenda of the Republican Party (I can no longer call it the Grand Old Party–it has been taken over by selfish, greedy, old white men) offers for a “non-ten percenter” (I also like quotation marks, Anson).
On another issue, I wonder what Republicans think about Romney’s answer to the housing issue. He said that the foreclosures on homes should continue and investors should buy the repossessed homes and make them rentals. Good old Mitt–take care of his one percenters at any cost. This elitist, who has no idea what life is outside of his mansions and country clubs, should be a king, not a president. That way he could kick the little people to the curb with little oversight.
I almost wrote “what a group of losers,” but that is incorrect. Instead, the Republican presidential field is composed of a group of lying, arrogant winners, whose disdain for everyone outside of their social circles disqualify them for any type of public position that is supposed to represent the other 99% of the population. It’s too bad that so many in the 99% do not realize that they are supporting candidates who will not help them at all.
January 27, 2012 at 8:36 am |
I honestly think the point of appeal for the Republican Party is old tribal instincts: support the tribe, distrust outsiders. Those instincts were potent enough to keep us organized even before we had language, and they’re probably still in us today, albeit more strongly in some than others. If you’ve got those instincts, you’ll feel that you have to belong to the tribe (not belonging is suicidal), and you’ll feel comfortable with the most powerful individuals at the top of the hierarchy. Of course, power these days is measured by wealth.
Read anything ever written by Pat Buchanan, and see if it tracks against the tribal model.
But if you don’t have those instincts in any strong measure, you will find GOP support utterly baffling. You’re more likely to turn to the party that’s talking about fuel efficiency and better schools, which to the GOP faithful falls flat because it sounds like they’re not even aware of the need to protect the tribe.
January 27, 2012 at 11:20 am |
KB, I agree entirely. We’ve become tribes. I include Liberals even though our cohering is reactive, i.e., we didn’t start this nonsense.
Who started it? Whatever the behind the scenes movements (and there were many), it was Newt who was the bomb thrower in the 80′s, Newt who designed the vile language to be used to target liberals as ‘the enemy, the other, the alien, with anti American values’.
With that, civility fled and with it any sense of being adversaries or opponents, which are honorable positions. We are indeed now tribal.
January 27, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
King Beau,
I agree with you.
I have read a lot of Buchanan (I used to be a political supporter, by the way), and no conservative writer (living) better exemplifies what you are saying about potent tribal instincts. His thought is replete with tribalism.
Now that I am a liberal, I can step back and see that tendency on the right, which can also manifest itself on the contemporary left, but it seems to be much more diluted and almost disconnected from pigmentation or cultural antecedents.
Duane
January 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm |
On the left, I think we tend to err primarily in the other direction: we hunt for reasons to dislike our own guys, and judge them even more harshly than the Republicans. Go to that cesspool of “Progressive” thinking called the Huffington Post, and you will find there is nobody the locals love to hate on more than Obama.
Both the tribal mindset and the unorganizable mindset can be trouble under the right circumstances. When stuff’s got to be done and fast, people with the tribal mind are the go-to bunch; they’ll line up and obey a leader while the unorganizables are all quibbling over why one plan is better than another. At the same time, being overly willing to follow marching orders is bad for all concerned if those orders involve marching off a cliff … which is where the GOP has been for some time now.
Buchanan is often called a racist or a bigot, but I don’t think that’s quite it. He’s got this notion that America (especially the Platonic ideal of America in his head) is the best nation on earth, but then someone asks him to explain why, and pretty soon he’s dredging up bigoty-sounding reasons to justify what is mostly arbitrary tribal loyalty. If he’d been born a Bosnia-Herzegovinian, he’d be saying the same things about Bosnia-Herzegovina.
January 27, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
Jim,
Look, I know how hard it is to watch. But I am a public servant!
As you know, it has always baffled me why folks vote against their own economic interests, especially since the foundation of free-market capitalism involves the idea that folks tend to maximize their benefits and thereby (albeit unintentionally) maximize the benefits of society.
I only know that the moneyed interests in our society have been very good at distracting folks with things like homosexuality and abortion and “the war on religion,” while they establish laws and conditions that virtually guarantee their control over our democracy.
It is an amazing thing to behold.
Duane
January 27, 2012 at 10:06 am |
JD Higt,
At least Duane watched and listened to the debate to enable him to write this blog. You I suppose only watched part of one (out of 19) debates.
So your rebutal to all things GOP is “small ball” generalitites. That phrase incidentally is in the title of today’s Krauthammer column in the Post about Obama’s SOTU address. You can find the link to that column and some editorial comments from me, “over there” which you will ignore of course, just like you ignore the GOP debates filled with lots of real substance.
At least Duane does his homework to rebut the GOP. Of course if I had my grading pencil out, I would only give Duane a C at best in such rebutal. But he can pick and choose his “clips” to “spin” all he likes in his own blog.
Anson
January 27, 2012 at 11:09 am |
Looking at that pix of the four of them, they ALL look like they’re having heartburn.
January 27, 2012 at 12:20 pm |
I told you the tamales were too spicy!
January 27, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
Duane: Thank you for doing the dirty work of not just listening to the GOP debate but artfully giving us the play-by-play.
The clown circus drags on.