Republican Lies In Triplicate

Apparently, Republican presidential campaign lies come in threes.

Rick Santorum said last night during his post-loss falsehood-fest in Michigan:

…we have a government that is crushing us every single day, with more taxes, more regulations, and the idea that they know better than you how to run your life.

Let’s count ’em up: Obama’s government is crushing us with (1) more taxes (2) more regulations and (3) run-your-life superiority, a trifecta of untruths.

Mitt Romney said last night during his post-win lie-fest in Michigan, that Barack Obama,

put us on a path toward debt and deficits and decline.

Admittedly, Romney’s unholy trinity of falsehoods sounds good to Obama-hating ears, but the only way it could be true is if it were said about George W. Bush.

Romney engaged in another tall-tale threesome:

We’ve seen enough of this president over the last three years to know that we don’t need another five years of President Obama—he thinks he’s unchecked by the Constitution, he’s unresponsive to the will of our people, and in a second term he would be unrestrained by the demands of reelection. If there’s one thing we can’t afford, it’s four years of Barack Obama with nothing to answer to.

Let me reiterate: Obama (1) “he thinks he’s unchecked by the Constitution” (2) “he’s unresponsive to the will of our people” (3) “he would be unrestrained by the demands of reelection.”

Keep all that stuff in mind as you read on.

Remember the controversy at the end of last year over the National Defense Authorization Act and the provision that allows the indefinite military detention of terrorist suspects—including Americans?

For now, thanks to Obama—who did what he promised when he signed the bill—apparently there is at least some reason to relax, if only while Mr. Obama is in office:

WASHINGTON — The White House released rules Tuesday evening waiving the most controversial piece of the new military detention law, and exempting U.S. citizens, as well as other broad categories of suspected terrorists…

Naturally, Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham (and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire) are not exactly excited about the waiver and the temporary protection of our civil liberties:

“We are particularly concerned that some of these regulations may contradict the intent of the detainee provisions of the National Defense Authorization Act passed by Congress last year.”

All three senators were adamant that all terrorism suspects — American citizens or otherwise — should be taken into military custody.

Now, what we have here is an Administration, headed by a man who is supposedly “crushing us every single day” and who “thinks he’s unchecked by the Constitution” and is “unresponsive to the will of our people,” trumping three Republican senators whose disregard for the Constitution and the will of the people may one day be legendary.

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  1. ansonburlingame

     /  February 29, 2012

    Duane,

    Is it possible for you to ever determine the difference between “spin”, campaign rhetoric and lies.

    None of the GOP quotes pointed out a specific instance to back up their claims. Politicians rarely do so. They try to paint a broad brush picture based on innuendo and opinion. And believe you me both side do it. YOU do it all the time as well. You cherry pick comments and call them LIES when utter by anyone from the GOP.

    But God forbid a democract would never hurl such accusations, as the above, against a GOP running for office, now would they.

    Now I can anticipate your response to this (other than ignoring it). Your “headline” was REPUBLICAN LIES. No, you did not call a particular Republican a “liar”, you just show “Republican lies”, which most consider to be politics as usual in today’s world.

    When Romney, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul go after one another in campaign rhetoric, I have not heard you call any of them “liars” or even remark on the “spin” or rhetoric used just between Republicans.

    Might I suggest if the Dems held a primary season you would hear the same “spin” or rhetoric, Dem against Dem. For sure Obama and Hillary did so 4 years ago.

    Now if you want to equate “spin” with LYING, then I suggest we go back to the remark during a SOTU address a few years ago. In fact I believe that “spin” at that time has been soundly proven to be FALSE, has it not? Something about health insurance costs not going up, was it not????

    Anson

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    • First, here is the definition of a lie:

      lie

      1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

      2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression;imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.

      3. an inaccurate or false statement.

      Of course politicians stretch the truth, but there first has to be a truth to stretch. Where is the truth in “we have a government that is crushing us every day“? Huh? How about Romney’s claim that Obama “put us on a path toward debt and deficits and decline“? There is exactly no truth in that statement. He could have said that first Bush put us on the path, and then Obama continued down the path, which would have been a very long stretch, but he didn’t say that. He said Obama “put us on a path.” That is a bold-faced lie, not a stretch of the truth.

      As for the comment about Obama being “unchecked by the Constitution” and “unresponsive to the will of the people,” those are obvious lies (for obvious reasons, like, say, the recent change of position on the contraceptive issue), but are just Romney’s way of feeding red meat to the ravenous Obama-haters out there.

      As for chronicling the lies told by my side, or Republican-against-Republican, that’s not the point of this blog, Anson, unless it serves the larger purpose of demonstrating the strengths of liberalism or the weaknesses of conservatism.

      Duane

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  2. ansonburlingame

     /  February 29, 2012

    “Where is the truth in “we have a government that is crushing us every day“? ” OBAMACARE AND THE KEYSTONE DECISION, FOR STARTERS OF LATE.

    “that Obama “put us on a path toward debt and deficits and decline“? There is exactly no truth in that statement. DO YOU BELIEVE BUSH OR ANY REPUBLICAN WOULD HAVE RUN UP $5 TRILLION IN DEBT IN THREE YEARS AND GOING FOR $6.4 TRILLION IN FOUR YEARS???

    “about Obama being “unchecked by the Constitution” and “unresponsive to the will of the people,” those are obvious lies ,” THE SUPREME COURT WILL DECIDE ON THE LAW RELATED TO OBAMACARE. BUT THE “PEOPLE” HAVE RATHER CLEARLY EXPRESSED THEIR “WILL” ON THAT ACCOUNT ALREADY.

    Spin, Duane, not lies, intentional statements KNOWN to be false. Republicans are expressing strong views during a campaign, for now against each other. I can’t wait to her the “spin” or “lies” come this fall, from BOTH sides.

    Anson

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    • Anson,

      If you think Obamacare is “crushing us every day,” then you are ignoring two important facts about it: 1) it hasn’t even gone into total effect, and, 2) it has already helped millions of people, including many kids who wouldn’t have insurance without it.

      But more important, you ignore the fact that nearly half the country supports the law and a little more than that don’t. How can that be seen as “crushing us”?

      And the Keystone decision is crushing us? I don’t have words to answer that one, so ridiculous is it.

      I’m not even going to bother to argue with you on the deficit issue, since you refuse to acknowledge the damage Bush did to the budget (with his tax cuts and profligate spending). Suffice it to say, that no matter who would have won in 2008, we would have deficits out the ying-yang and as far as the eye can see.

      And even if your conservative court stings Obamacare, that doesn’t mean Obama is “unchecked by the Constitution” unless he heads over to the Supreme Court building and whips him some conservative justice ass.

      Duane

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  3. Conservative ideologues are wanting to crush us by continuing endless overseas military action while cutting taxes on the wealthy.
    Why do we continue to allow tax ‘holidays’ for companies who already in effect pay no taxes while profiting at record levels?

    If there’s any question of constitutionality about the healthcare, that’s not something that the repub candidates are qualified to decide.
    I am a bit disappointed that Obama continued and even strengthened some Bush policies that are obviously not in line with American ideals; once again the conservatives trampled all over the constitution with things like the “Patriot” Act and then asked their justice department to try to make it all legal after the fact.
    Kind of like CitiBank violating the anti-trust laws and then getting a ‘waiver’ while congress made their illegal merger legal.

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    • Sekan,

      Your objection to Obama’s continuation of and in some cases strengthening of Bush-Cheney policies is exactly why I laugh when I hear right-wingers tell me how “far left” Obama is. He is so far left, I suppose, that he has gone around to the other side on some of these issues.

      Duane

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  4. ansonburlingame

     /  March 1, 2012

    One thing this discussion shows is that no one is LYING. Strong political disagreement, yes for sure. But not lying, knowingly at least.

    AB

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  5. Treeske

     /  March 22, 2012

    Anson, not telling the truth is: LYING!

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  6. ansonburlingame

     /  March 22, 2012

    NO, Treeske,

    It is only when one KNOWS it is false that it becomes a lie.

    Did Obama LIE when he said unemployment would remain below 8% if his stimulous bill was passed. Not in my view, but certainly such did NOT happen after passage of his stimulous bill.

    A prediction is NOT a lie in most cases, it is a guess with political implications. Now go read my counter to Maddow’s (and Graham’s) accusations about Romney LYING in terms of Obama and the actual defictis encured on Obama’s, not Bushes, watch.

    If my web site is accurate, and I believe it is, then BOTH of them LIED in terms of calling Romney a liar. But such is politics today.

    Anson.

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