“Bullet Backstops”

Tea Party freak, Sharron Angle, back when she was trying to take away Harry Reid’s senate seat in 2010, famously said in an interview with a conservative talker, Bill Manders:

Angle: I feel that the Second Amendment is the right to keep and bear arms for our citizenry. This not for someone who’s in the military. This not for law enforcement. This is for us. And in fact when you read that Constitution and the founding fathers, they intended this to stop tyranny. This is for us when our government becomes tyrannical…

Manders: If we needed it at any time in history, it might be right now.

Angle: Well it’s to defend ourselves. And you know, I’m hoping that we’re not getting to Second Amendment remedies. I hope the vote will be the cure for the Harry Reid problems.

Now, Angle—who, by the way, got nearly 45% of the vote in Nevada in her race against Reid—was suggesting, of course, that the right to murder unrepentant Democrats, who she considered to be part of a tyrannical government, was why the Second Amendment exists. And to be honest, a lot of Republicans in power, most in fact, wouldn’t publicly disagree with her Second Amendment logic, even if they would criticize her Second Amendment honesty.

Now comes the latest freak in the Republican Party to endorse the Second Amendment-sanctioned murder of legislators: Chris Nogy. This man is married to the secretary of the Republican Party in Benton County, Arkansas, chris nogywhich is uncomfortably close to Joplin, less than an hour’s drive from my house. Yikes.

Mr. Nogy is proposing the murder of legislators who voted for “socialism” in Arkansas, otherwise known as Medicaid expansion under ObamaCare. In the latest Republican Party of Benton County Newsletter, Nogy wrote (the piece was titled, “Scathing”):

…we need to get a LOT tougher if we are ever to assure that events like those that took place this week don’t happen again.

Part of me feels that this betrayal deserves a quick implementation of my 2nd amendment rights to remove a threat domestic.  Because no matter how much one group says it is inevitable to start down the road to socialism it isn’t as long as we use our creativity and energy to creating solutions that don’t take us that way.

Fortunately for Democrats, and unlike Sharron Angle’s Second Amendment strategy, Nogy is letting Democrats who voted for Medicaid expansion off the hook:

I don’t feel the same way about the Democrats as bullet backstops as I do about the Republicans who joined them.  The Democrats were doing what their party told them they had to do because they were elected to do that job.

Whew!  Thanks Mr. Nogy for at least getting your aim right!

In case you were thinking that Nogy was just kiddin’ around, he wasn’t finished:

We need to let those who will come in the future to represent us that we are serious.  The 2nd amendment means nothing unless those in power believe you would have no problem simply walking up and shooting them if they got too far out of line and stopped responding as representatives.

Damn! That gun-toter is pissed! And he ain’t apologizin’. In a response on the Benton County Republican Committee’s Facebook page, he begins with this:

This is not a retraction, this is a clarification.

After he claimed, falsely, that he “didn’t advocate violence,” he ended with this:

I believe that in a world of nameless, faceless thugs influencing our people every day, it is imperative that we become thugs with names and faces just as scary even if in a different way. If we don’t, then we lose.

Yep. He called himself a thug. No, I mean, a “scary” thug.

And if any of you are tempted to think that this Nogy creep is a lone wolf, think again. You can follow the Twitter accounts of any number of  Tea Party Republican conservatives, or you can peruse the comment sections of nearly any right-wing web site, or, heck, you can just tune into any reactionary radio station near you and listen to the same kind of stuff Nogy based his kill-the-traitors screed on:

To the turncoats that sunk us, thank you.  It is now our responsibility to make sure that you are forever remembered in history, in big, bold, letters as the ones who placed Arkansas firmly on the path to Socialism, to the desires of Obama and Sebilius [sic], and who made it easier for future traitors to introduce all kinds of other socialist laws and programs.  You set the precedent,  now I hope that we can do something to make sure the lesson learned by those who represent us in the future is that bad things will happen to you if you follow that precedent.

For some folks in this country, the metaphorical civil war going on over that Scary Negro in the White’s House, is too much metaphor and not enough war.

9 Comments

  1. So, paranoia appears confirmed by this. Conservatives, and especially those passionate about non-regulation of gun rights, do not trust government. But this meme doesn’t go very deep, it seems to me, because they also espouse a very strong national military. Perhaps they don’t trust government mainly when its executive is of the other party?

    This flirting with violence as cure for political dissonance is dangerous stuff, not just for lives but for civil stability. Mollie and I watched a fascinating movie the other night, one about a resort to martial law relative to terrorism fears. I strongly recommend The Siege as reflective on both the theme of this post and on its remarkable parallels to the recent Boston bombing events, particularly relative to the shutting down of a major metropolitan city. Even if you saw it when it was made in 1998, it will have much more impact now. It has a very strong cast (Denzel Washington, Bruce Willis, Annette Benning) and a tight script. It was in my opinion remarkably prescient. There is a claim that it was the most rented movie in the United States immediately following 9/11.

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  2. Do those who advocate shooting Democrats because they support the ACA think that a shooter is not going to come into conflict with the glorious United States military which they claim to support? They are not thinking this through. They are not thinking at all. They never do.

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  3. It is scary stuff. I hope this guy is mostly a wind bag, but I don’t know.

    The Siege was I think influenced a lot by the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995.

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  4. ansonburlingame

     /  April 24, 2013

    No doubt, Nogey is a…., well a nut, in my view. The phrase “exercising 2nd Amendment rights” COULD be taken as merely carrying a gun. But most understand it as not only carrying but USING (or at least threatening to use) a gun as a form of political action. Dumb, crazy, you name it in my view to even imply such stuff.

    But you begin the blog with “Tea Party freak, Sharron Angle”, a politician that received 45% of the vote in a State in her run for Senate. Are 45% of the voters in Nevada “freaks” as well?

    Nogey belongs on a “list” maintained by law enforcement in my view, just like the New Black Panther carrying a billy club near a voting location. But just how long must such lists become and what actions should law enforcement take other than “listing” people?

    Does a candidate for public office with strong, but not majority, support deserve being “listed” by the FBI, CIA or other law/intelligence agencies?

    While you will ignore it, I would suggest you check out Geoff’s recent blog on Boston. He and I exchanged disagreement in the comment section. He insists that “your side” (the left) is far worse than “our side” (the right) and I called him on it. There we went. BUT the exchange of disagreement is far more “tame” than what I get in many comments on this blog.

    Just a day or so ago I became a “nit wit” from one of the lefties supporting this blog with all its polemics contained herein. OK, I asked for it by even attempting to offer different views and if I take offense at such exchanges I should just stop commenting, right? Wrong in my view.

    I will use my First Amendment rights to counter what I consider to be wrong but hopefully will never have to resort to anything to do with the 2nd Amendment.

    Hatred and utter disdain ENDS with law enforcement actions, when such hatred goes too far. But such hatred does not just “appear”. It starts with reading, writing polemics, being so fed up with other views that words become stronger and stronger up to a point of ……..

    Geoff challenges me to “make a list” of violence brought about by the ‘left” and claims that list is FAR longer and more severe than such violence created by the “right”. You might do the same in reverse and “link me to death” to support your claim. So what? Do we now live in a society where the one with the most links “wins”?

    Cherry picking links to support pre-determined views is not good research in my view. It used to be so as we were not deluged with some many links that no one can keep track of the “truth”. But today, well “link away” and to me it proves nothing of much substance. Just because “Krugman says….” does not make it true any more than “Friedman says….” does so either.

    It was interesting to judge a HS debate contest several months ago. The kids were smart and had worked hard to prepare for the debate. I saw two other judges that “counted the links” from each side and judged accordingly. I went beyond the links to see how each side drew conclusions that made sense. While smart, most of those kids wound up in disagreement over whose link was better than the other. I hope they learn more about how to debate beyond just what some pundit has to say on matters and think for themselves to make good points.

    And NO HS debater should EVER win by leading off (or concluding) with calling the other side a bunch of freaks, nit wits, etc.!!

    Anson

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  5. yet, Mr. Nogy looks like a 60’s hippy.

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    • I can tell you that around here where I live, there are a lot of Republicans who look like that. It is very strange indeed.

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  6. ansonburlingame

     /  April 26, 2013

    No Bruce, they (Hippies) by and large did not use guns, only the Obama supporters from the Weathermen did that, by and large. Oh my, did I start another fight!!

    Nogey is a 2000 red neck harkening back to earlier days of the KKK, it seems to me.

    AB, again

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    • “Obama supporters from the Weathermen.” Yeah, those Weathermen supported what would have been an eight-year-old Obama at the time. They were quite prescient folks, those radical lefties. Geeze.

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  7. ansonburlingame

     /  April 29, 2013

    You know better than that Duane. Look at former Weathermen, men and women and the positions they take today, politically and in some major universitites. Ayers, Boudin (spl?) etc. are all vehemently anti-anything conservative and sound like the radical wing of the Dem party today. They are typical of those that want Obama to go further left, much further left. No they are not Weathermen today but that is where they learned their politics yesterday.

    AB

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